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Small tree for shade?

Posted: Jun 08, 2005 10:51 pm
by Frodo the Hobbit
I have a spot in my hostas that is desperate for some height.(Like something 5-10 feet tall) It is almost total shade, and I would love something to add color, maybe blossoms in the spring. I thought of something like a crab apple, but don't want the mess and don't know if it could tolerate the shade.

Any thoughts? I don't mind a bush, as long as it has some height to it, but I'm not looking for something round. Something with red in leaves or blossoms would be great as well.

Thanks for any info!
Frodo

PS I just found this area of Hallsons and love it! I've been looking for more companion plants for the hostas, and have got lots of good ideas here.

Posted: Jun 09, 2005 12:59 am
by Old earth dog
There's a great Redbud tree called 'forest Pansy'. It's new leaves are red/purple, and stay that way for a while. It may not be hardy for your zone though.

small tree for shade... a shrub

Posted: Jun 09, 2005 2:04 am
by DryGulch
Maybe a Diablo Ninebark (deep burgundy) or Physocarpus Dart'sGold (bright yellow)...I don't know how the colors hold in shade. But they are 6' to 9' tall and about 6' wide.

Posted: Jun 09, 2005 4:57 am
by whis4ey
If it is not TOO deep shade, a Japanese Maple would look lovely there ... maybe the common Acer palmatum Atropupureum???? It would depend on your temperatures etc of which I have no inkling
This is one after 10 years with me

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Posted: Jun 09, 2005 5:02 pm
by Liselotte
My favorite small tree is Cornus alternifolia. It is one of few that grow for me in this climate with a short season. The only disadvantage is, that after flowering the white 'stuff' falls on the Hostas and has to be brushed off. But the the pagoda type form ist lovely, the leaf color is chartreuse with red tinges (at least at our altitude). the dark blue berries are treasured by small birds and the fall color is out of this world. After 16 years (one year seedling) it is barely 15 ft tall in full sun. Native in Illinois!

Azalea?

Posted: Jun 09, 2005 6:08 pm
by Kurt5
Azalea 'Mandarin Lights' is one of various "Lights" varieties bred for cold climates. Try a web search to see what other colors are available.

Posted: Jun 09, 2005 10:19 pm
by doublemom2
Good suggestions! I vote for Cercis 'Forest Pansy', but you'd have to check hardiness. Another favorite of mine is Styrax japonica, or Japanese snowbell, it has hundreds of fragrant white bell-shaped flowers that are blooming right now. How about Viburnum 'Pink Dawn', which is good for part shade. Physocarpus 'Diablo' is wonderful, but probably needs a decent amount of sun. Would an elderberry hardy for you? Sambucus 'Black Beauty' is a wonderful shrub too.

Hope this helps out some... :)

Andi

Posted: Jun 09, 2005 10:32 pm
by Frodo the Hobbit
Wow! Thanks for all the great suggestions. It will take a while to research many of the suggestions and find one of them locally, but it sure is nice to have some names to start with! I really love that Japanese Maple, my mother-in-law just got one and they do look sharp. Not sure how it would do in the shade though.

I'll let you know what I decide and post pictures.

Frodo

Posted: Jun 09, 2005 10:51 pm
by Old earth dog
Andi brought up a good point with the 'Pink Dawn'. There are tons of great viburnums out there, as with the different Elderberry varieties.

Posted: Jun 11, 2005 1:01 pm
by Frodo the Hobbit
After some research last night, I went shopping today. I looked for any of the listed items, but had little luck around here. I would probably have to go to the Cities or at least Eau Claire to find a better selection. Since I didn't have time for that, I purchased the only thing on my list that I found, the Azalea 'Mandarin Lights'. Having said all that, I did love the pictures of it I found, and may have chosen it even if all the others had been available. I'm really happy with the size they had, and I'll just prune it to keep a more upright form. (Thanks to Kurt who suggested it!)

What I'm looking for now is a Japanese Maple. After seeing the picture from whis4ey, I'm hooked. I've always wanted one, but I suddenly realized I have the perfect spot in a new bed I just made. It is sheltered spot close to the house in about half direct sun, so hopefully it would make it in our climate in that location.

I do have a larger new bed where I hope to plant some of the other suggestions. It is shade, but much brighter and can have larger trees up to 15 ft or so.

Thanks again, I'll post a pic when I get it planted, but that may be a day or two.

Frodo

Posted: Jun 11, 2005 3:26 pm
by janet
I'll eagerly wait for the results of your search, Frodo! I've never been able to find a Japanese maple that would survive in my zone 4...other than small potted ones that are taken in for the winter. I should have gotten a clue when I realized no one had any in their landscapes... :cry: Good luck to you!

Posted: Jun 14, 2005 7:03 am
by wholyhosta
Others have taken the words/suggestions out of my mouth.

I have a favorite viburnum-Mohawk-that has a spreading habit, is very open and airy, and has 'popcorn balls' of flowers in the spring before leafing out, that start pink and open to white- they have a heavenly fragrance. Makes a small 10-12' tree bush. Is fragrance important to you?
I have one on either side of my front porch and just planted another near a new hosta bed to provide dappled shade.

Good luck with finding all your choices!

Brenda

Posted: Jun 16, 2005 6:43 pm
by LucyGoose
I am bringing this up to the top.....

Now I am thinking on planting a tree or two...

Chris suggested the Honey Locust....

I looked up the Pagoda Dogwood.....Very pretty!

Any more suggestions?

Thanks!!!

small tree

Posted: Jul 11, 2005 4:00 pm
by hostapair
We have a Lavendar Twist Redbud (weeping redbud) and a Kousa Dogwood- both reasonably sized, pretty, tolerate partial shade and are hardy in marginal zone 5!

Posted: Jul 12, 2005 12:30 am
by Old earth dog
The Kousa (Chinese) dogwood is a great one. It blooms about a month or so later than the common dogwood. The native, Gray Dogwood (Cornus racemosa) is another late bloomer with cluster type flowers. It does sucker a bit though. A number of the viburnums can be grown into small trees. Hard to beat the doublefile viburnums. In particular, 'Shasta'.

Posted: Aug 08, 2005 5:55 pm
by hostadad
I vote for: Cercis 'Forest Pansy' I saw Andi's and it is absolutely gorgious!