hosta estate?
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hosta estate?
Hi all,
I'm just wondering if any of you have made plans for your hostas for after you are gone. Might sound macabre but it has been on my mind. Don't get me wrong, I'm hoping to have many good years left to spend with my hostas myself and have no health issues at the moment. But, I did include in my new Will last year that my home will go to my brother and any hostas that are of interest should go to my local hosta society. They can either divide them up among members or donate them to our local botanical garden. Most of my hostas are fairly common but I do have a few of the harder to get ones.
My brother has no interest in hostas and I imagine that over time he would kill them off to plant grass!
Anyone else thinking about stuff like this?
I'm just wondering if any of you have made plans for your hostas for after you are gone. Might sound macabre but it has been on my mind. Don't get me wrong, I'm hoping to have many good years left to spend with my hostas myself and have no health issues at the moment. But, I did include in my new Will last year that my home will go to my brother and any hostas that are of interest should go to my local hosta society. They can either divide them up among members or donate them to our local botanical garden. Most of my hostas are fairly common but I do have a few of the harder to get ones.
My brother has no interest in hostas and I imagine that over time he would kill them off to plant grass!
Anyone else thinking about stuff like this?
Weird, maybe, but yes...
Living alone I have told my kids to contact my hosta friend and let him deside what to do
DD told me years ago, she accepted to get her heritage in hostas
Living alone I have told my kids to contact my hosta friend and let him deside what to do
DD told me years ago, she accepted to get her heritage in hostas
Against stupidity the gods themselves struggle in vain.
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Okay...I'll admit it. I've thought of this very thing myself.
My family thinks I am downright morbid sometimes.
I haven't quite finalized my plans for my hostas, but I do consider them a very important part of what I will leave behind. So far, no one in my immediate family seems all that keen on them, so I'm considering all my options.
My family thinks I am downright morbid sometimes.
I haven't quite finalized my plans for my hostas, but I do consider them a very important part of what I will leave behind. So far, no one in my immediate family seems all that keen on them, so I'm considering all my options.
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Good topic, and I don't find it at all morbid. Most people make some plans for disposition of their collections, and hostas are definitely in that category. My youngest wants to live on the farm when we're done with it, and she is a hosta lover as well. She jokes now and then, asking me to make sure not to let this or that one die so it's still here when she ships us off to the nursing home and takes over. My other two have no interest in the hostas, and always tell her she's welcome to them. It's good to know that someone will look after them when I'm not here to do it.
Linda P
Linda P
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And frosts are slain and flowers begotten.....
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And frosts are slain and flowers begotten.....
Algernon Charles Swinburne
Latitude: 41° 51' 12.1572"
My Hosta List
hostas left behind
I've thought of that too, and have made up a document of all my hosta with pics and descriptions - in case the labels go AWOL - now have to talk to family about them. It bears thought....
The odd thing was that I was thinking about that last night as I finished that project, and then checked in and the thread was already started.
It is a good idea to think about an make plans for, as most of us have spent a considerable amount over time - most of our families have NO IDEA HOW MUCH!!! It would be a shame if it was dissipated through their ignorance of the value of this or any collection!!
If someone had a really valuable collection of stamps or china or jewellery, she/he would make provision for the disposition of them. A plant collection, whether hosta or orchid should be seen as the same and treated accordingly.
Perhaps another project is to add the value of the plants to the list so that it would be visible for them - and to put it with our wills...as I have with jewellery and other valuables. They don't HAVE to follow the requests there but if there is some guidance, it will help them in the task of divvying up.
Anne
The odd thing was that I was thinking about that last night as I finished that project, and then checked in and the thread was already started.
It is a good idea to think about an make plans for, as most of us have spent a considerable amount over time - most of our families have NO IDEA HOW MUCH!!! It would be a shame if it was dissipated through their ignorance of the value of this or any collection!!
If someone had a really valuable collection of stamps or china or jewellery, she/he would make provision for the disposition of them. A plant collection, whether hosta or orchid should be seen as the same and treated accordingly.
Perhaps another project is to add the value of the plants to the list so that it would be visible for them - and to put it with our wills...as I have with jewellery and other valuables. They don't HAVE to follow the requests there but if there is some guidance, it will help them in the task of divvying up.
Anne
Ya know, I don't think it's that morbid, either.....I always tell Jay to call Pat..... But I would want someone who would love all my plants like I do.....I think I am going to have to think of this more, now.....I would want the Hallsonite's to get what family didn't want....I do have a niece that might get the bug more so as she grow, so Good thinking!!
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I often think of what will happen to all my stuff & my gardens when I am no longer able to care for them.
Hopefully, I can do what my grandma did & start giving stuff / plants away when the time comes. But who knows what life has in store for us. Guess we have to take it as it comes. But yeah, what if I would die tomorrow or tonight, I'm not prepared!
One more thing to put on my list of stuff to do - make a Hosta Will & find a notary & witnesses.
We all should have living wills too but I just keep putting it off & I certainly know better! I my line of work you know there is no guarantee of tomorrow. So it is true - we should all live each day to its fullest & make the best of what we got!
Be Happy!
MM
Hopefully, I can do what my grandma did & start giving stuff / plants away when the time comes. But who knows what life has in store for us. Guess we have to take it as it comes. But yeah, what if I would die tomorrow or tonight, I'm not prepared!
One more thing to put on my list of stuff to do - make a Hosta Will & find a notary & witnesses.
We all should have living wills too but I just keep putting it off & I certainly know better! I my line of work you know there is no guarantee of tomorrow. So it is true - we should all live each day to its fullest & make the best of what we got!
Be Happy!
MM
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When I anticipate no longer being able to care for the gardens, I plan to hold a big party/open house/pot luck picnic and invite all my friends, fellow hostaholics, my Hosta Society and customers. They will be directed to bring spades and bags of topsoil (enough to fill any holes they make). In order to avoid a feeding frenzy, they will be given numbers.
Viktoria
Viktoria
Many a great tune has been played on an older fiddle.
Well did I get carried away!!!! I had the list finished, and then I added pics beside each, and then got carried away and added descriptions. And then to let them know the value of what they might just overlook, I added the value of each (not what I paid...) All I have to do is to print it out and put it with my papers!!! Doggone it will this winter never end?? I get myself involved in these silly tasks and then carry them to extremes.
If that doggone Wiarton Willie groundhog doesn't see his shadow tomorrow, I for one will be happy..
Anne
If that doggone Wiarton Willie groundhog doesn't see his shadow tomorrow, I for one will be happy..
Anne
Great Topic!
Something to think about.
It's very true, that like every collection, this to has a value that goes unforseen as we pass on. So catalouging, pricing, discripting, and mapping should all be included. Everything has a value, as long as we give it to the ones that will appreciate it for what it is. My biggest issue will be who do I leave it to? Probably my youngest Daughter she's the only one that has ever shown any real interest. (Other than my Husband!)
Something to think about.
It's very true, that like every collection, this to has a value that goes unforseen as we pass on. So catalouging, pricing, discripting, and mapping should all be included. Everything has a value, as long as we give it to the ones that will appreciate it for what it is. My biggest issue will be who do I leave it to? Probably my youngest Daughter she's the only one that has ever shown any real interest. (Other than my Husband!)
imagooch - If you are adding the value of each as opposed to what you paid, how are you determining that value?
Ann
Ann
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Good question....
I used Margot's price list (Hosta Choice) from last year (bought A LOT LAST YEAR from her. Then I used this year's price lists from Shades of Green and Floral and Hardy. In a few cases, I averaged them if there was a large range. These are places in our region.
BEcause most of my hostas are fairly small, 2-9 eyes, I just used the price as it is in the lists.
On reflection, I guess I should adapt it for some of my oldies but biggies. Hadn't thought of it last night, but may do so in the spring when I see how big they are.
The purpose is just to let them quickly have a base of information on which to base their decisions.
Anne
I used Margot's price list (Hosta Choice) from last year (bought A LOT LAST YEAR from her. Then I used this year's price lists from Shades of Green and Floral and Hardy. In a few cases, I averaged them if there was a large range. These are places in our region.
BEcause most of my hostas are fairly small, 2-9 eyes, I just used the price as it is in the lists.
On reflection, I guess I should adapt it for some of my oldies but biggies. Hadn't thought of it last night, but may do so in the spring when I see how big they are.
The purpose is just to let them quickly have a base of information on which to base their decisions.
Anne
I think the easiest way would be to try and determine how many divisions you could get from a mature plant. For example; (Keep in mind that I am a purchaser by profession)
Mature Hosta; 3-4 eyes per pot x however many pots x todays purchasing price.
To obtain today's purchase price you should get 3 quotes add them together, divide by 3 and this will give you an average value of your divisions!
Example;
My Fried Green Tomatoes- Mature has 36 eyes, I will get approximately 9 pots. Originally I paid $30.00 for this Hosta. However, when I checked 3 prices I came up with; $24.99, $16.99, and $12.99. Which gave me an average cost of $18.32 per pot.
My 9 pots x $18.32 gave me an average value of $164.91 for my Mature Fried Green Tomatoes.
Keep in mind that this is only one way to do an appraisal of what this plant could be worth.
The other thing to remember is; for a will or something of the sort is it really necessary to have a value to your gardens? For a business, Insurance, or the conditional sale of a house and property I could really see this being a necessity. But for a will, I think I'd be scared of people contesting it over greed, rather than the love and divotion that goes into our Gardens. Personally I think I would steer clear of adding a detailed value of each Hosta, and concentrate on determining who would best care for your hard work. I thought about this last night
I hope for those of you who wanted to know how to do an appraisal, that the formula works out for you!
It's very true, you guys are really enabling
P.S. my Friends call me Izzy!
Does anyone know if Willie saw his shadow?
Mature Hosta; 3-4 eyes per pot x however many pots x todays purchasing price.
To obtain today's purchase price you should get 3 quotes add them together, divide by 3 and this will give you an average value of your divisions!
Example;
My Fried Green Tomatoes- Mature has 36 eyes, I will get approximately 9 pots. Originally I paid $30.00 for this Hosta. However, when I checked 3 prices I came up with; $24.99, $16.99, and $12.99. Which gave me an average cost of $18.32 per pot.
My 9 pots x $18.32 gave me an average value of $164.91 for my Mature Fried Green Tomatoes.
Keep in mind that this is only one way to do an appraisal of what this plant could be worth.
The other thing to remember is; for a will or something of the sort is it really necessary to have a value to your gardens? For a business, Insurance, or the conditional sale of a house and property I could really see this being a necessity. But for a will, I think I'd be scared of people contesting it over greed, rather than the love and divotion that goes into our Gardens. Personally I think I would steer clear of adding a detailed value of each Hosta, and concentrate on determining who would best care for your hard work. I thought about this last night
I hope for those of you who wanted to know how to do an appraisal, that the formula works out for you!
It's very true, you guys are really enabling
P.S. my Friends call me Izzy!
Does anyone know if Willie saw his shadow?
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Lynn,
I think Willie was out too early. He'd have seen his shadow here in Ottawa - at least by mid-morning.
Ann
I think Willie was out too early. He'd have seen his shadow here in Ottawa - at least by mid-morning.
Ann
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I just told my husband to call Chris & Brian...(sorry, guys!)...and first see if they wanted them. Figured maybe they could use them for their display garden or sell them to support the forum. Nobody in my family has much interest or shade...and all my hosta buddies are quite some distance away. I like viktoria's idea of a dig-your-own party, but I can easily see a riot breaking out over the streaked Blue Angel and Regal Flame. Do I really want to do that to my buddies? Oh, well, maybe by that time I can raise one of the younger nieces or nephews into a hosta addict (hehe).
And about the valuation...about 5 yrs. ago I ran across some mature hosta for sale at a large nursery. They were planted in large tree pots quite a bit bigger than a bushel basket. Common varieties - but BIG...and they sold for $350 and up. AND they were all gone the next time I went! Apparently folks are willing to pay for instant results, rather than wait 5-10 yrs. for hosta to reach mature size. Something to consider when setting a valuation!
wanda
And about the valuation...about 5 yrs. ago I ran across some mature hosta for sale at a large nursery. They were planted in large tree pots quite a bit bigger than a bushel basket. Common varieties - but BIG...and they sold for $350 and up. AND they were all gone the next time I went! Apparently folks are willing to pay for instant results, rather than wait 5-10 yrs. for hosta to reach mature size. Something to consider when setting a valuation!
wanda
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Hi Anne,
Would you please tell me what your secret is to getting all these projects done? I still have a a bunch of plants to plant from last summer and yes, even the summer before!
(I will not even admit to you guys how many! )
I keep track of everything I buy & haven't entered that in the journals for about 2 years! And eventually I want to type then bind my journals I keep. Let's see, I've been keeping a garden journal for over 10 years, so I have quite a bit of typing & binding to do.
Plus I have a lot of garden projects. I still have a flagstone sidewalk to make, an octopus topiary to make for my octopus garden, which I also have to paint the side of the garage for that one & glue all the fish stuff I've been collecting for it on the garage. There are many other projects but you get the idea!
So tell me your secret, PLEASE!!!!!!
Ellen
Would you please tell me what your secret is to getting all these projects done? I still have a a bunch of plants to plant from last summer and yes, even the summer before!
(I will not even admit to you guys how many! )
I keep track of everything I buy & haven't entered that in the journals for about 2 years! And eventually I want to type then bind my journals I keep. Let's see, I've been keeping a garden journal for over 10 years, so I have quite a bit of typing & binding to do.
Plus I have a lot of garden projects. I still have a flagstone sidewalk to make, an octopus topiary to make for my octopus garden, which I also have to paint the side of the garage for that one & glue all the fish stuff I've been collecting for it on the garage. There are many other projects but you get the idea!
So tell me your secret, PLEASE!!!!!!
Ellen