Gypsy Rose variations

[redcrx]

Last year I bought two Gypsy Rose at a local grower and planted them next to each other. They looked the same. This year they came back with one of them looking a little different - the edge is a lot darker.

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I've seen a lot of variability in Gypsy Rose... luckily both of yours look really good. I have one very happy, very healthy GR except it has almost no white stripes... most leaves don''t have any at all... kind of spoils the whole "strip" thing...

given the amount of color change in the whole Gold Standard family through the season, it will be interesting to see if the darker vs. lighter remains this dramatic all season...

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One other point of variation - the darker one held on very late in the season. It was around for weeks after the other one gave up. It stayed until December when an ice storm took out everything.

[Spider]

Ok, what's the difference between Gypsy Rose and Striptease? I just held my Striptease up to the screen and other than a slightly lighter center and more white on your Gypsy Rose, there is no difference that I can see.

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OK, here goes my opinion. (Given this is a moving target.)

GR is smaller.
GR seems to have more yellow (almost orange) in the center.
GR might be more sun tolerant - I have seen ST go white in the center while I have a GR in an area that cooked a Gold Standard.
GR seems brighter, a cleaner look.

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My Striptease never poses well for photos - here's my best.

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I love all the Striptease family, and each one has its pluses.

Striptease - the original and a nostalgic favorite... exceptional grower, can make a huge mound (just like its mom, Gold Standard). It flaws, if you want to call them that, are that it colors up sort of slowly (just like its mom) leaving it with some sort of "muddy" coloring for a number of weeks. Also the green tends to be a kind of dusty green.

Kiwi Full Monty is distinctly bluer and holds that blue through an amazing amount of heat and sun. The white really looks cool against that blue.

Risky Business is often thought of as a Striptease sport - and overlooked when people discuss "best white-centered cultivars" - but that's what it is... a good green with a very distinct clear white center.

Gypsy Rose, as noted, stays smaller than the previous three. It colors up much earlier than Striptease in my garden, and the green is more distinct, none of the dusty grayish overlay found on Striptease. My biggest disappointment has been the scarcity of white in GR - so I was surprised to see the excellent markings in Ed's pictures. Both of my mature GR are in full midday sun and doing just fine there... but then again, so does KFM and Striptease...

[sugar]

I love all the Striptease family, and each one has its pluses.

Striptease - the original and a nostalgic favorite... exceptional grower, can make a huge mound (just like its mom, Gold Standard). It flaws, if you want to call them that, are that it colors up sort of slowly (just like its mom) leaving it with some sort of "muddy" coloring for a number of weeks. Also the green tends to be a kind of dusty green.

Kiwi Full Monty is distinctly bluer and holds that blue through an amazing amount of heat and sun. The white really looks cool against that blue.

Risky Business is often thought of as a Striptease sport - and overlooked when people discuss "best white-centered cultivars" - but that's what it is... a good green with a very distinct clear white center.

Gypsy Rose, as noted, stays smaller than the previous three. It colors up much earlier than Striptease in my garden, and the green is more distinct, none of the dusty grayish overlay found on Striptease. My biggest disappointment has been the scarcity of white in GR - so I was surprised to see the excellent markings in Ed's pictures. Both of my mature GR are in full midday sun and doing just fine there... but then again, so does KFM and Striptease...

What I don't like about Gypsy Rose is that it doesn't seem to create a consistent poll. But even then, it stays a really nice plant. And you left out my favourite Striptease sport, 'Hanky Panky'. Give it the right spot in the garden (not too shady, not too sunny) and...

[Spider]

"Striptease - the original and a nostalgic favorite... exceptional grower, can make a huge mound (just like its mom, Gold Standard). It flaws, if you want to call them that, are that it colors up sort of slowly (just like its mom) leaving it with some sort of "muddy" coloring for a number of weeks. Also the green tends to be a kind of dusty green."

OK, I see what you mean. My Striptease has a smokey appearence and you are saying Gypsy Rose has a more clear green/white contrast. Thanks!

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I'll run updated pictures on this topic through the season.

As for the Hanky Panky subject I have a thread running already on the way that plant changes. It was my first ST sport and my addition.

As to Risky Business: I bought a couple small last season with a very thin white center. This year they are back with a huge white center. I'll find the photos to compare. But a real question about the white centered ST sports is - is there a difference between RB and Pole Cat or White Bikini or White LIne Fever? I know there are more but these I have actually seen and I don't see much difference - but they are young and small - and they do change all the time.