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Went "sport fishing" by accident.

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I stopped by a local garden center the other day. They were selling a bunch of Sum and Substance. One was dark centered with a gold edge. Could be a clone for Sum of All or Titanic.
Sum and Substance sport
Sum and Substance sport
Sum and Substance sport
Sum and Substance sport
I knew it looked like one in my garden and matched it with Sum of All. Then I wandered around in my garden and saw the similarity to Titanic also. (I forgot that Titanic is a sport of S&S.)
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looks good Ed... and should grow faster than S&S. Margin looks pretty wide and pretty even, something the first sports were uneven on...

I think you should name it. :wink: Everybody else has :cry:

Let's see... I have a couple each of Lady Isobel Barnett and Titanic and Sum it Up... and a Sum Total

Other green with yellow that people felt they had to name
American Idol
Beauty Substance
Bottom Line
Buckeye
Corona (like that name!)
oh, heck... I'm tired of typing... at least 9 more...

I found Titanic to be far to variable in the quality of the margins... some wide, some with no margins, some streaking but not reliable... and it doesn't grow nearly as well as LIB etc.

So what the heck -name it. Maybe it is the perfect one... the best... the Ultimate Sum (great name for marketing in a crowded field - works better than Better Than Sum...
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:hmm: I could wait 10 years and see what differences show up. :hmm: :wink: :wink: :wink:

I have a Lady Isobel Barnett around here somewhere - I need to check that also.

How about "Sumthing or Other".

I do have Bottom Line but it's too whimpy to compare.
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Nice looking hosta. I never find anything like that. Tho last year I found a streaked Candy Dish. Split it up and the streaky part came back this year still streaky. Cant wait to see how it looks in a couple years.
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Ok, Linda... Striped Candy is a pretty cool thing! I'd try to collect seed from that baby!
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I hope it flowers this year but its pretty small. A total of 4 eyes and I cant tell with the frost damage if there is more than one streaked. Well at least one is. I took off the streaked eye last year before I planted it but it came up with 3 eyes and I can only be sure of one eye. I am keeping it watered in this heat. Only time will tell and I keep my fingers crossed.
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"Better Than Sum", "Sumthing or Other"...you guys just crack me up!

Linda, that's a great find! Candy Dish puts out some really nice seedlings, and a streaked one
would add a lot more to the pot! Hope it stays streaked for you! I'd sure be growing any seeds it produced!

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Just an update after a few months:
Sum and Substance sport - August 14, 2012
Sum and Substance sport - August 14, 2012
Sum and Substance sport - August 14, 2012
Sum and Substance sport - August 14, 2012
Sum and Substance sport - August 14, 2012
Sum and Substance sport - August 14, 2012
Sum and Substance sport - August 14, 2012
Sum and Substance sport - August 14, 2012
I just noticed that there may be some differences in the pieces of this plant. There are three sprouts and those really streaky leaves may only be on one sprout.
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It looks like the streaker wants to stabilize to the light-margin, dark center form. If you want to keep the streaker, you'll want to divide it now - or wait until next year and hope there is still a streaked eye or two to separate. I like both forms, so I'd try to grow both... sort of like Blizzard and Winter Snow. I have to cut up the Blizzard regularly to prevent it all stabilizing to Winter Snow...
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I did split this up in early October:
Sum and Substance sport - October 3, 2012
Sum and Substance sport - October 3, 2012
Sum and Substance sport - October 3, 2012
Sum and Substance sport - October 3, 2012
The streaky piece of the sport:
Sum and Substance sport - October 3, 2012
Sum and Substance sport - October 3, 2012
Sum and Substance sport - October 3, 2012
Sum and Substance sport - October 3, 2012
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Just an update on these two. They look the same now. And both look like Sum of All.

Here is the one that had the most variability:
Sum and Substance sport streaked - May 21, 2013
Sum and Substance sport streaked - May 21, 2013
Here is the second piece from the original pot:
Sum and Substance sport - May 21, 2013
Sum and Substance sport - May 21, 2013
I also just noticed another large potted S&S is starting to show a lighter edge or maybe the center is starting to darken.
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Noticed this one this morning. It's hiding the other one under it.
Sum and Substance sport #1 - May 28, 2015
Sum and Substance sport #1 - May 28, 2015
Sum and Substance sport #1 - May 28, 2015
Sum and Substance sport #1 - May 28, 2015
Sum and Substance sport #1 - May 28, 2015
Sum and Substance sport #1 - May 28, 2015
Here is the other one that was buried between the first one and a Lady Isobel Barnett.
Sum and Substance sport #2 - May 28, 2015
Sum and Substance sport #2 - May 28, 2015
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Nice find!

Every time I think I have found a sport, it turns out to be another Frances Williams.

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Well my streaked Candy Dish didn't make it through the winter. :(
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Sorry to hear that.
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At least I have a streaked seedling from Swoosh to play with. Its only 2 leaves so far. Its not happy with the cool weather we have been having.
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Update on these:

The one in my New Garden space.
Sum and Substance sport - May 22, 2016
Sum and Substance sport - May 22, 2016
Sum and Substance sport - May 22, 2016
Sum and Substance sport - May 22, 2016
And the one still in a pot.
Sum and Substance sport - May 22, 2016
Sum and Substance sport - May 22, 2016
Sum and Substance sport - May 21, 2016
Sum and Substance sport - May 21, 2016
Sum and Substance sport - May 21, 2016
Sum and Substance sport - May 21, 2016
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These S&S sports are fun, I found this one last year, my first ever, this is it last year.
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And this year, still coming out.
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Here is a follow-up on these two sports - they are named Romulus and Remus. Remus went into my side garden a couple of years ago (the garden a tree fell on). Romulus went into my "named" theme garden last season.

Here is Romulas in the garden. That's Bobbie Sue in front.
Romulus - May 21, 2018
Romulus - May 21, 2018
Romulus - May 21, 2018
Romulus - May 21, 2018
Romulus - May 21, 2018
Romulus - May 21, 2018
Here is Remus in my side garden - its leaves aren't as large as last season.
Remus - May 21, 2018
Remus - May 21, 2018
Remus - May 21, 2018
Remus - May 21, 2018
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