Weedlings in the garden - are you saving some?

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Here is one that opened its flowers today. I had been guessing about its parentage but I now think it's Lacy Belle.

Here is the group with Lacy Belle dominating the photo. At the bottom/right are two weedlings, one of them has a scape about 4 feet tall - huge compared to everything else in there and it's straight up. The scape has a wax coating giving it a bluish appearance.
weedlings - July 18, 2017
weedlings - July 18, 2017
The flowers are huge to match.
weedlings - FLW #2 - July 18, 2017
weedlings - FLW #2 - July 18, 2017
weedlings - FLW #2 - July 18, 2017
weedlings - FLW #2 - July 18, 2017
I compared the flower to Lacy Belle - they are similar except for the size difference.
Lacy Belle &  FLW #2 - July 18, 2017
Lacy Belle & FLW #2 - July 18, 2017
Lacy Belle &  FLW #2 - July 18, 2017
Lacy Belle & FLW #2 - July 18, 2017
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One of my gravel weedlings that I have shown in previous seasons.
Starting its scapes - 2 "main" upright scapes and 15 lateral smaller scapes - one of its scapes got broken off and it may have been upright.
gravel weedling "Xiangliu" - August 12, 2017
gravel weedling "Xiangliu" - August 12, 2017
gravel weedling "Xiangliu" - August 12, 2017
gravel weedling "Xiangliu" - August 12, 2017
gravel weedling "Xiangliu" - August 12, 2017
gravel weedling "Xiangliu" - August 12, 2017
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Another one with a really pretty flowers and lots of them but the plant disintegrates "early" in the season - you can see lots of leaves going yellow already (I wonder if it would do better with more sun). I showed this last season - viewtopic.php?f=1&t=56350&start=100#p501963
That's 'Sweet Innocence' at the top - that's the best it has looked in years (there had been a Japanese Pencil Holly sitting on top of it). And that's 'Waving Winds' just above the weedling.
Back Lawn Garden weedling #3 - August 12, 2017
Back Lawn Garden weedling #3 - August 12, 2017
Back Lawn Garden weedling #3 - August 12, 2017
Back Lawn Garden weedling #3 - August 12, 2017
Back Lawn Garden weedling #3 - August 12, 2017
Back Lawn Garden weedling #3 - August 12, 2017
Back Lawn Garden weedling #3 - August 12, 2017
Back Lawn Garden weedling #3 - August 12, 2017
Back Lawn Garden weedling #3 - August 12, 2017
Back Lawn Garden weedling #3 - August 12, 2017
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The scape count is at 29 today and it has started to open flowers.
gravel weedling "Xiangliu" - August 17, 2017
gravel weedling "Xiangliu" - August 17, 2017
From the "back" side:
gravel weedling "Xiangliu" - August 17, 2017
gravel weedling "Xiangliu" - August 17, 2017
gravel weedling "Xiangliu" - August 17, 2017
gravel weedling "Xiangliu" - August 17, 2017
gravel weedling "Xiangliu" - August 17, 2017
gravel weedling "Xiangliu" - August 17, 2017
gravel weedling "Xiangliu" - August 17, 2017
gravel weedling "Xiangliu" - August 17, 2017
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An update on a shiny leafed little plant that I posted back in April - viewtopic.php?f=1&t=56350&start=100#p502493

This little guy got stepped on (a hazard when you decide to grow in my gravel paths). But has recovered and is trying to flower with a couple of scapes. I always wonder about the parentage - there is an 'Obsession' in a trough nearby.
Shiny gravel weedling - August 17, 2017
Shiny gravel weedling - August 17, 2017
Shiny gravel weedling - August 17, 2017
Shiny gravel weedling - August 17, 2017
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I have a few of this style weedlings. Plants look virtual identical - dark green oval leaves with a slight wave.
center weedlings - August 17, 2017
center weedlings - August 17, 2017
center weedlings - August 17, 2017
center weedlings - August 17, 2017
And I expect to see this dark striped flower - from the second plant shown here.
center weedlings - August 17, 2017
center weedlings - August 17, 2017
But that first plant fooled me and put out a much larger flower and different coloration.
center weedlings - August 17, 2017
center weedlings - August 17, 2017
I got another surprise when I got a profile photo showing different lengths of the stamen. This suggests to me a yingeri is involved. I would think laevigata, which is nearby, but I thought it was sterile. There is a 'Korean Snow' off a-ways and my gravel weedling (probable seedling of Korean Snow) in between.
center weedlings - August 17, 2017
center weedlings - August 17, 2017
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I got surprised this morning when I saw this flower. I thought it was from Miss Jody's Special but following the scape I found it was a small weedling next to MJS.
There is a lot going on in this first photo. Miss Jody's Special is on the left hidden by the volunteer tomato that I have been getting fruit from. On the right is a red cardinal flower weedling that I need to get out. The hosta top/right is (I think) Lakeside Zesty Zeno. In roughly the middle of the top edge is another hosta volunteer.
weedling next to Miss Jody's Special - August 30, 2017
weedling next to Miss Jody's Special - August 30, 2017
weedling next to Miss Jody's Special - August 30, 2017
weedling next to Miss Jody's Special - August 30, 2017
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I got another surprise when I got a profile photo showing different lengths of the stamen. This suggests to me a yingeri is involved. I would think laevigata, which is nearby, but I thought it was sterile. There is a 'Korean Snow' off a-ways and my gravel weedling (probable seedling of Korean Snow) in between.
Ed, yingeri has different length stamens, laevigata has equal length ones and is notoriously poor at sexual reproduction. Schmid classified laevigata as a specie in 1991 but postulates this taxon may in fact be a natural hybrid. My laevigata sport 'Ray of Hope' is very floriferous and I seldom see pods on it but I have found it a usable pollen donor.
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Pieter, in the 2010 update of species in the Hosta Library, Schmid twice states that the stamen are the same size but also at one point states they are different lengths - http://www.hostalibrary.org/species/pdf/laevigata.pdf
3 and 3.jpg
And in the same article he has photos - two of which, to me, show different length stamen.

I have been photographing laevigata and Roller Coaster Ride for years and posting the photos here. When I can get a clear profile, it shows 3 long and 3 short.
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=58018#p501956
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=56532#p486990

I don't have any really good photos this season - the stamen seem to be going in all different directions. Here is one that may demonstrate the long and short stamen for Roller Coaster Ride (sport of a sport of laevigata).
The flower on the left shows the anthers pretty clearly. The three anthers on the left would have the longer filaments while the three anthers on the right are attached to the shorter filaments.
Roller Coaster Ride - August 28, 2017
Roller Coaster Ride - August 28, 2017
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I showed this one a little while ago. I called it Shiny Gravel Weedling. It got stepped on at one point early in the season.
It opened its flowers and the are exactly the same as yingeri. The plant is a duplicate - it looks like the second photo of yingeri in the Hosta Library.
The baskets are to keep the critters from destroying the scapes.
Shiny Gravel Weedling - September 1, 2017
Shiny Gravel Weedling - September 1, 2017
Shiny Gravel Weedling - September 1, 2017
Shiny Gravel Weedling - September 1, 2017
Shiny Gravel Weedling - September 1, 2017
Shiny Gravel Weedling - September 1, 2017
Shiny Gravel Weedling - September 1, 2017
Shiny Gravel Weedling - September 1, 2017
And the different length stamen - typical of yingeri type.
Shiny Gravel Weedling - September 1, 2017
Shiny Gravel Weedling - September 1, 2017
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Found this little guy this morning. I have been following the development of three good sized weedlings in my middle-front flower bed. They are done flowering now. I noticed a late scape in the area of the first (and plainest) of the group. When I went to inspect what was going on I noticed it was not the same weedling. This new one has a frosted leaf-back and some color on the scape.
FLW -1-A - September 3, 2017
FLW -1-A - September 3, 2017
FLW -1-A - September 3, 2017
FLW -1-A - September 3, 2017
The leaves are the same shape as the weedling next to it on the right but the scapes are different.
FLW -1-A - September 3, 2017
FLW -1-A - September 3, 2017
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Something nibbled part of the scape on this one. I showed this last season with tons of flowers on it.
weedling bottom & rupifraga top - September 14, 2017
weedling bottom & rupifraga top - September 14, 2017
weedling near rupifraga - September 14, 2017
weedling near rupifraga - September 14, 2017
weedling near rupifraga - September 14, 2017
weedling near rupifraga - September 14, 2017
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This one surprised me with a scape coming along. I think it's one of the Elegans type weedlings but it is really white on the leaf-back. Hopefully I get to see the flowers.
Big Center volunteer - September 14, 2017
Big Center volunteer - September 14, 2017
Big Center volunteer - September 14, 2017
Big Center volunteer - September 14, 2017
Big Center volunteer - September 14, 2017
Big Center volunteer - September 14, 2017
Big Center volunteer - September 14, 2017
Big Center volunteer - September 14, 2017
Big Center volunteer - September 14, 2017
Big Center volunteer - September 14, 2017
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I was working in the garden yesterday for the first time this season - I'm only a month behind cleaning up. It was a cool bright sunny day. I got a picture of a weedling I moved last season because it was pushing its way into another weedling that is one of my "pets".
Yeah, it has a garden name - it was tangled up with another hosta I have named Bri-Sun.
weedling - "Bri-Sun's Buddy" - 4/26/2018
weedling - "Bri-Sun's Buddy" - 4/26/2018
While working in the garden today and it's cool overcast with a little drizzle, I took a photo of the same hosta because the leaves are folded up.
weedling - "Bri-Sun's Buddy" - 4/27/2018
weedling - "Bri-Sun's Buddy" - 4/27/2018
weedling - "Bri-Sun's Buddy" - 4/27/2018
weedling - "Bri-Sun's Buddy" - 4/27/2018
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This one is back with more variegation this season.
Front Lawn Weedling V-3 - April 29, 2018
Front Lawn Weedling V-3 - April 29, 2018
Front Lawn Weedling V-3 - April 29, 2018
Front Lawn Weedling V-3 - April 29, 2018
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Another one in my front bed. That's Lacy Belle top left.
front lawn weedling V2 - May 5, 2018
front lawn weedling V2 - May 5, 2018
front lawn weedling V2 - May 5, 2018
front lawn weedling V2 - May 5, 2018
front lawn weedling V2 - May 5, 2018
front lawn weedling V2 - May 5, 2018
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Just noticed some "streaking" on one today. The trillium has been there for many years. The weedling took up residence under it a few years ago. I didn't pay much attention to it but it is getting big.
trillium and weedling - May 6, 2018
trillium and weedling - May 6, 2018
weedling - May 6, 2018
weedling - May 6, 2018
weedling - May 6, 2018
weedling - May 6, 2018
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I had to put two small center ones into baskets to keep the voles off them - there was not much crown left. The weedlings on the ends were protected last season and have a good size to them.
weedlings Big Center - May 9, 2018
weedlings Big Center - May 9, 2018
Found this "odd" one towards the back of my garden. I called it "odd" because I don't see color in the pediole in weedlings. It's like longipes hypoglauca but none of those types are anywhere nearby - there's S&S sports and Halcyon sports and some fortunei types. I'm guessing a seed washed down from one of my troughs.
The leaves are missing because I didn't realize it was there while I was raking the garden - there were a couple of other new weedlings in the same zone but they were undamaged.
weedlings Blue area - May 9, 2018
weedlings Blue area - May 9, 2018
weedlings Blue area - May 9, 2018
weedlings Blue area - May 9, 2018
Here are the other two - nothing special.
Might be similar to the ones at the top.
weedlings Blue area - May 9, 2018
weedlings Blue area - May 9, 2018
This one might be from the Halcyon group - there's an English Sunrise nearby.
weedlings Blue area - May 9, 2018
weedlings Blue area - May 9, 2018
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Just noticed this little guy is doing OK. I see this form a lot but never yellow. The flower should be interesting. That's Sweet Innocence next to it.
Sweet Innocence and yellow weedling - May 18, 2018
Sweet Innocence and yellow weedling - May 18, 2018
yellow weedling - May 18, 2018
yellow weedling - May 18, 2018
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Last season when I added a new garden I put in a strawberry pot and filled the holes with small "named" hosta. I took a piece from one of my weedlings and put it in the top spot. The weedling was the only one to survive - it did have the best spot. I have shown this plant before - it flowers like crazy. I believe it's from Korean Snow. That's Red Cloud on the right.
Xiangliu - May 18, 2018
Xiangliu - May 18, 2018
Xiangliu - May 18, 2018
Xiangliu - May 18, 2018
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