Niwaki help
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Niwaki help
Hi,
I finally received my new Niwaki book and I absolutely love it. I’ve been reading it over and over again trying to rap my brain around it. There are days when I am fired up to start and then I get scared and chicken out. So I was hoping George and the gang can guide me through this. I would like to start with my P. Thunbergii. I took a few pictures of it today from different angles. I hope you can see it well enough. If not, I can take some more. I planted it exactly a year ago and it has done very well for the fist year. It’s over 6-feet, and it had a lot of new growth this season. I feel it has established itself nicely and now it’s time for niwaki. I planted it on an angle, leaning over a big rock, so I was wondering how I should prune and train the side branches. Should I use splints and string? I just don’t know where to begin. I need niwaki help.
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I finally received my new Niwaki book and I absolutely love it. I’ve been reading it over and over again trying to rap my brain around it. There are days when I am fired up to start and then I get scared and chicken out. So I was hoping George and the gang can guide me through this. I would like to start with my P. Thunbergii. I took a few pictures of it today from different angles. I hope you can see it well enough. If not, I can take some more. I planted it exactly a year ago and it has done very well for the fist year. It’s over 6-feet, and it had a lot of new growth this season. I feel it has established itself nicely and now it’s time for niwaki. I planted it on an angle, leaning over a big rock, so I was wondering how I should prune and train the side branches. Should I use splints and string? I just don’t know where to begin. I need niwaki help.
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Hi Jason,
I will study your photo's over the next few days and see what I can come up with.A few months ago I had an email from Jake Hobson the author of Niwaki from whom I bought my signed copy of his book and he said he liked my prunned Junipers on my website.
George.
Please tell me which is your front view ie the one you want to be the front .
I will study your photo's over the next few days and see what I can come up with.A few months ago I had an email from Jake Hobson the author of Niwaki from whom I bought my signed copy of his book and he said he liked my prunned Junipers on my website.
George.
Please tell me which is your front view ie the one you want to be the front .
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Hi George,
Jake Hobson likes your junipers? That's awesome! But you know...they are pretty spectacular. I like the way Jake explains in a clear and precise manner plus I appreciate his drawings. I wanted to get a signed book from him but I went with Amazon instead because my wife bought a couple of books at the same time, so we got free shipping. I apologize if the pictures are a little confusing. I found a winter picture that I took from the second floor of my house. This is the view from my side windows. And the other side of the tree is on the main street. So I think the side that I see from my window would be the face. Do you think that is correct?
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Jake Hobson likes your junipers? That's awesome! But you know...they are pretty spectacular. I like the way Jake explains in a clear and precise manner plus I appreciate his drawings. I wanted to get a signed book from him but I went with Amazon instead because my wife bought a couple of books at the same time, so we got free shipping. I apologize if the pictures are a little confusing. I found a winter picture that I took from the second floor of my house. This is the view from my side windows. And the other side of the tree is on the main street. So I think the side that I see from my window would be the face. Do you think that is correct?
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Dōmo arigatō, Mr. Roboto,
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J
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Hi George,
Yeah...I think we will get more enjoyment from it, if the front faced our windows and we can view it from the side porch. Do you want me to take another photo? Thanks for your help George. I really appreciate it.
Yeah...I think we will get more enjoyment from it, if the front faced our windows and we can view it from the side porch. Do you want me to take another photo? Thanks for your help George. I really appreciate it.
Dōmo arigatō, Mr. Roboto,
J
Many Things of the past
flood to my mind
as I stand in the garden gazing at a cherry tree.
Matsuo Basho (1644-1694)
J
Many Things of the past
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J
Many Things of the past
flood to my mind
as I stand in the garden gazing at a cherry tree.
Matsuo Basho (1644-1694)
J
Many Things of the past
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as I stand in the garden gazing at a cherry tree.
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Hi Jason,
I need some help here as I cannot tell whether what looks like the trunk at the bottom where I have removed all the lower branches is the trunk or is it the shadow. also post a photo of this side of your pine so that I can see all the branches.
George.
I need some help here as I cannot tell whether what looks like the trunk at the bottom where I have removed all the lower branches is the trunk or is it the shadow. also post a photo of this side of your pine so that I can see all the branches.
George.
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I think it is the shadow George. but it really is confusing
Sam
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Hi Sam,
Yes it really is confusing ,if you take a look at some of the other photo's there is certainly a big bend somewhere near the bottom but I just cannot make it out on this photo ,if you look at the other photo's it is the fifth one that I am working on.
George.
Yes it really is confusing ,if you take a look at some of the other photo's there is certainly a big bend somewhere near the bottom but I just cannot make it out on this photo ,if you look at the other photo's it is the fifth one that I am working on.
George.
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Yes. I can see that bend George
BUT I still think the last pic is a shadow and confusing
BUT I still think the last pic is a shadow and confusing
Sam
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If everyday I have a laugh I add one minute to my life, then surely I will live forever
Hun Ki Dory
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Hey George,
You're spot on. That is a shadow coming from the base and the bend is directly behind some needles. I'll post some new pictures tomorrow when the sun is up. It gets so dark these days when I get home from work. If you look at photos #7 & #8, you removed the lower branches touching the big rock.
Cheers mate!
You're spot on. That is a shadow coming from the base and the bend is directly behind some needles. I'll post some new pictures tomorrow when the sun is up. It gets so dark these days when I get home from work. If you look at photos #7 & #8, you removed the lower branches touching the big rock.
Cheers mate!
Dōmo arigatō, Mr. Roboto,
J
Many Things of the past
flood to my mind
as I stand in the garden gazing at a cherry tree.
Matsuo Basho (1644-1694)
J
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as I stand in the garden gazing at a cherry tree.
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#9 Hi George. This is the exact view from my house. I'm kneeling on the big rock while taking this picture.
#10 In this one, I'm going to my right in order to see the bend better.
#11 Now I'm a little more behind the bend, rotating right. Please let me know if you need more. Thanks again.
#10 In this one, I'm going to my right in order to see the bend better.
#11 Now I'm a little more behind the bend, rotating right. Please let me know if you need more. Thanks again.
Dōmo arigatō, Mr. Roboto,
J
Many Things of the past
flood to my mind
as I stand in the garden gazing at a cherry tree.
Matsuo Basho (1644-1694)
J
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Hi Jason,
If you clear those branches around the bottom of your pine for starters and straighten the two branches which are left by bringing them down horizontal, they will need prunning later so that the balance of the pine is right then take a photo of the branches above these two including the very top of your pine so that I can see the whole picture.
Jason you do not have to do this if you don't want to as every person sees things differently, these suggestions are what I would do if it was my pine, so believe me I will not be offended if you don't want to do it my way.
DO IT MY WAY that sounds like it would make a good song title, I bet someone as allready done it.
George.
If you clear those branches around the bottom of your pine for starters and straighten the two branches which are left by bringing them down horizontal, they will need prunning later so that the balance of the pine is right then take a photo of the branches above these two including the very top of your pine so that I can see the whole picture.
Jason you do not have to do this if you don't want to as every person sees things differently, these suggestions are what I would do if it was my pine, so believe me I will not be offended if you don't want to do it my way.
DO IT MY WAY that sounds like it would make a good song title, I bet someone as allready done it.
George.
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What about 'I did it my way' George
Does that not sound like a winner?:)
I have a first line ...
'And now, the end is near ...
ok ... I will work on it
Does that not sound like a winner?:)
I have a first line ...
'And now, the end is near ...
ok ... I will work on it
Sam
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If everyday I have a laugh I add one minute to my life, then surely I will live forever
Hun Ki Dory
(famous Japanese philosopher
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I don't know George, I heard it was YOUR WAY WITH NO HIGHWAY OPTION.
Just kiddin'. I like your suggestion a lot. In fact that's what I was thinking too. I just am unsure with how to tie down the limbs. The lowest one on the right is so low. I'm thinking I should spike it to the ground. What do you think?
Hey Sam, I like it. I thought of another verse..."And so I face the final curtain. My friend, I'll say it clear, I'll state my case, of which I'm certain."
Just kiddin'. I like your suggestion a lot. In fact that's what I was thinking too. I just am unsure with how to tie down the limbs. The lowest one on the right is so low. I'm thinking I should spike it to the ground. What do you think?
Hey Sam, I like it. I thought of another verse..."And so I face the final curtain. My friend, I'll say it clear, I'll state my case, of which I'm certain."
Dōmo arigatō, Mr. Roboto,
J
Many Things of the past
flood to my mind
as I stand in the garden gazing at a cherry tree.
Matsuo Basho (1644-1694)
J
Many Things of the past
flood to my mind
as I stand in the garden gazing at a cherry tree.
Matsuo Basho (1644-1694)
Jeepers ... I think we might have a winner here
Sam
Fujiyama Japanese Garden
If everyday I have a laugh I add one minute to my life, then surely I will live forever
Hun Ki Dory
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If everyday I have a laugh I add one minute to my life, then surely I will live forever
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