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need input from anyone growing from seed

Posted: May 18, 2007 11:19 pm
by Justaysam
I posted a pic awhile ago of a seedling I have that has purple edges.Link viewtopic.php?t=43971&highlight= I know it was very faint, but it is there. My question is has anyone had new leaves, coming up from the center of a seedling that are purple or red? I'm kind of concerned. A good concerned, but still concerned. I have seen purple &/or red leaves on the flower stems, but never on emerging leaves. Now I have three seedlings showing this, and am wondering if maybe they might be starting to rot or something. I know time will tell, but I'm just wondering if others have seen this kind coloring on new growth.

Posted: May 18, 2007 11:23 pm
by ademink
When mine have rotted, it has always been at the crown - the leaves either just fall off or they get brown and curl up.

I've never seen rot look like that! NICE!

I'd love to see an updated pic!

Posted: May 18, 2007 11:24 pm
by HostaDesigner
Nope, I've never seen it. As large as that seeding is, I'd be surprised if it was starting to rot. I've been growing seedling for 8 years now and I have never had one rot that was that large. 100% of the time, for me, I get rot at the 1 leaf stage when it's just too weak to sustain itself.

Posted: May 18, 2007 11:37 pm
by Justaysam
OK, I am going to rule out rot. Maybe I will pop one of them out, and just check on the roots. Thanks. I will take a pic of them in the morning and post. I am just too tired now. It is showing on 3 different seedlings, but they are similar in form, so maybe it is just the cross. Gee, I wish I were better at the bookeeping of crosses now.

Posted: May 18, 2007 11:38 pm
by ademink
Who is the pod parent?

Posted: May 18, 2007 11:50 pm
by Justaysam
The pod parent would be either a streaked seedling I have or H. Liberty Bell. They are the only steakers, of my own collected seed, that I grew. All the other streaked seedlings I'm growing, came from seed I purchased from auctions, but they are not from those, they were started later and are smaller.

Posted: May 19, 2007 12:02 am
by ademink
That is so exciting!!!! Looks like you may have hit the motherlode! :bd:

Posted: May 19, 2007 12:38 am
by Justaysam
I don't know about motherlode, but I do think they will be interesting to watch. Here are some pics, can't sleep anyway.

Posted: May 19, 2007 12:40 am
by Justaysam
This is the second one I found, I just don't know what to think.

Posted: May 19, 2007 2:14 am
by renaldo75
Interesting, Linda - but from what I can see of the plants they look perfectly healthy.

Posted: May 19, 2007 8:54 am
by Wanda
I want to know how many hosta collectors are standing outside your door this morn waving fistfuls of cash at you and pleading for “just one” of those?

I would really like to see what you would end up with if you cross one of these with Purple Haze...purple on the outside plus purple on the inside might be something people would talk about for the ages!!!

wanda

Posted: May 19, 2007 10:27 am
by ademink
:lol: @ fistfuls of cash!

Isn't that the truth...?

They look extremely healthy and beautiful. I wouldn't dig them up to check the roots or bother them in any way. Whatever you are doing, keep doing it!

Posted: May 19, 2007 11:25 am
by eastwood2007
Whoa!!! :cool:

Posted: May 19, 2007 5:46 pm
by Justaysam
Ok, I was pretty tired last night when I saw them. Since it is so nice outside, the seedlings inside are suffering from neglect a bit. When I first took a look at them, I thought that colored part was mush. It is tiny down there in the center, LOL. I now realize they are not sick, just different :wink: I promise, I will keep a better eye on them, and see they are turned and watered regularly. And I do have 1 or 2 that have crown rot at this stage! I potted some up into a bad mix of stuff, and it is hard as rocks instead of airy. I know, bad hosta mom! I am going to get them out of the house and out to harden off this week.

Posted: May 19, 2007 9:19 pm
by largosmom
Do take good care of those!

Laura

Posted: May 19, 2007 10:36 pm
by Hank Zumach
Seriously, if I had those, I think I would keep them in the house and grow them under lights. You would be able to grow/develop the plants quicker and they would be more secure. You just might have a break through and it would be a shame if they were badly damaged by weather or stolen. If you want some expert opinions, you could post your photos on the hostapix list.

Posted: May 19, 2007 10:37 pm
by GrannyNanny
I have a whole flat of Sea Octopus seedlings that have red leaves all along the outside of the stems. Your plants are OK, I'd say. Phyllis

Posted: May 20, 2007 11:13 am
by Justaysam
Hank, what if they only grow this way, showing the coloring, under lights? I didn't go to the convention, but wasn't that red leaved plant at the leaf show, only a greenhouse plant, and not able to be grown outdoors? Maybe I will take a few more pics in ourdoor light and post and ask a few questions on hostapix. Really, I just don't know what to do about them.

Posted: May 20, 2007 8:02 pm
by Hank Zumach
You could put one of them out for a period of time to see if the color changed. Other than bleaching from too much sun and the general effect lighting has on a plant, I'm not aware of sunlight vs. artificial light having an influence on coloring. But, I don't have any particular knowledge on the subject.

I did not attend the convention and have not heard about the plant you mention.

Sometimes I have seen leaf color variations based on ...

Posted: May 20, 2007 8:17 pm
by DryGulch
soil mineral and pH, etc. Fertilize them with Osmocote and see it the color still seems the same.

The same plants sometimes looks different in clay, versus, sand, versus, peat, etc.; maybe your potting mix is missing some trace mineral.