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Dark-flowered hostas

Postby Pieter » Sep 22, 2018 12:08 pm

Over the flowering season I've made an effort to take pictures of the darker flowered varieties I have in my garden. I laid them out on a backer board that has a nice, neutral colour and put them under cover in my potting shed out of direct sun so I could replicate the set-up over several days and weeks and be confident in getting results where the background was not going the influence the colour perception. Here are some of the results. The reference to 'Clausie' is a flower from a cross of clausa var normalis and sieboldii 'Alba'.
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Re: Dark-flowered hostas

Postby redcrx » Sep 27, 2018 5:01 pm

Your clausa is a lot different than mine. And more interesting with the two tones.

Nice array.
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Re: Dark-flowered hostas

Postby redcrx » Sep 27, 2018 5:34 pm

Here are a few I had in my garden this season.
Miss Selene - a seedling from Art Wrede from Miss Angie.
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Seems similar to Miss Selene. A 2016 self cross of red flowered Dostoyevsky
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No transparent edge on this one. A 2016 cross of Redback Tavern with First Blush.
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Re: Dark-flowered hostas

Postby Chris_W » Sep 30, 2018 7:27 pm

Those are great comparisons. Do you have any comparisons to the ventricosa related flowers? Those are some of my darkest purples. Wish I had some of the red flowerings hostas but have never come across those personally.
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Re: Dark-flowered hostas

Postby redcrx » Sep 30, 2018 7:33 pm

I was going to do a spread on rectifolia but I'll hunt for ventricosa and Holly's something relative. And a point of interest for me - the reds are hard to keep alive.
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Re: Dark-flowered hostas

Postby redcrx » Oct 01, 2018 6:32 am

ventricosa related - these have been a lot darker in previous years.

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Re: Dark-flowered hostas

Postby redcrx » Oct 01, 2018 12:00 pm

I will get to the rectifolia spreads in a while. For the moment here is a group of Katsuragawa Beni hybrids - when I saw a flower on Red Alert today I got interested.

Red Alert
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Miss Ruby - This is from Art Wrede's work. I have a note "TO" on it which stands for "The Other". This Miss Ruby always seemed a little different.
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Miss Jody's Special - One of Art Wrede's plants.
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Maryland Longhorns - An Art Wrede plant I gave a name to.
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Another Art Wrede plant - he was doing a lot of work using Katsuragawa Beni for it "red" potential.
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Re: Dark-flowered hostas

Postby redcrx » Oct 01, 2018 8:44 pm

Rectifolia group: Aomori type

Aomori Gold Star
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Aomori Setting Sun
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A couple of plain green plant volunteers in that area.
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Re: Dark-flowered hostas

Postby redcrx » Oct 01, 2018 8:50 pm

Some small sized rectifolia - rectifolia 'Chionea' & rectifolia 'Nishiki'

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Re: Dark-flowered hostas

Postby redcrx » Oct 01, 2018 9:01 pm

Volunteers in my back yard that I think are from seeds washed down from my rectifolia area.
Some even have garden names. There are two pages showing flowers from the same plant just different dates.

This first one shows some variation in color intensity.
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Black Bart - first of the "named" ones. Notice the change in anther color - a lot darker.
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Re: Dark-flowered hostas

Postby redcrx » Oct 01, 2018 9:13 pm

More volunteers in my back yard that I think are from seeds washed down from my rectifolia area.

Bri-Sun's Other Buddy - it's growing next to my yellow hosta Bri-Sun and will have to be moved. It's a good sized plant with a lot of scapes.
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Longfellow - this is a small plant so far but it flowers are a different shape - more pointed petals. The flower itself is much longer than the others in this group. Again notice the difference in anther color - this one is dark while the one above is light.
This is showing the same flower from different angles.
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Re: Dark-flowered hostas

Postby Pieter » Oct 01, 2018 9:52 pm

Thanks for all the additions, Ed!
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Re: Dark-flowered hostas

Postby redcrx » Oct 02, 2018 3:29 am

Kogashiyama Fukurin popped-up as part of this topic this morning. (Don't worry - I will get back to rectifolia in a bit.)
This is a small plant with a thin white edge. This season it seems to always be in flower with 3 feet long scapes that are now covered in pods and with a fresh scape starting up.

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Re: Dark-flowered hostas

Postby redcrx » Oct 02, 2018 10:03 pm

Back to what I think are rectifolia volunteers. This is a group of four plants that are getting big and the scapes are large some over 6 feet. It started out as a group of 3 but one put out a streaked sport so I cut out the green hunk and moved it. My labeling is simple "FLW" for Front Lawn Weedling and then a number/letter label - V-1, V-2, V-3 (streaker) and V-3A. Here are V-1 and V-2. V-2 has a white back and frosted scape. V-1 is putting up an October scape.

FLW V-1
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FLW V-2
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Re: Dark-flowered hostas

Postby redcrx » Oct 02, 2018 10:08 pm

Here is FLW V-3 and V-3A.

FLW V-3
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FLW V-3A
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Re: Dark-flowered hostas

Postby redcrx » Oct 03, 2018 5:44 pm

Here is FLW V-1 today with its late flower scape. I didn't realize it was "frosted".
There is another small/young "volunteeer" under this plant - V-1A. It's getting crowded in this space - I moved Deliverance out of this area,this season, because Lacy Belle, just to the left of this plant is getting really big. I could always remove more lawn.

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Re: Dark-flowered hostas

Postby redcrx » Oct 03, 2018 5:58 pm

Another set of what I think are rectifolia types but these are smaller plants. They are in the same "Front Lawn Garden" as the previous few pages but they are on the other side edge.

First photo is FLW V-4 from last season when it first had flowers.
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FLW V-4 this season - interesting differences in the look of the flower.
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The next two are growing under rectifolia 'Kinbuchi Tachi'. There are a couple of other little ones buried under it.
FLW V-5
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FLW V-6
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Re: Dark-flowered hostas

Postby redcrx » Oct 08, 2018 4:09 am

Some random "odds and ends" for this topic.

Austin Dickinson - this late scape has darker flowers
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clausa normalis 'Jilin' and a Ginko Graig sport that looks like Green Smash
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Ginko Graig
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Kinbuchi Tachi
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Lemon Frost
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Re: Dark-flowered hostas

Postby redcrx » Oct 08, 2018 4:23 am

The last that I can find.

tibae
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Violetta
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One Man's Treasure and an unnamed seedling from Art Wrede that I have named Miss Lois Lane
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A rectifolia "volunteer" I potted a few years ago - first flowers that I have seen.
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Xiangliu - one of my "volunteers"
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Re: Dark-flowered hostas

Postby kHT » Oct 11, 2018 10:12 am

Thank you, Ed, for this comparison post. Love the darker colored bloomers too!!
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